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THE DESIGN OF BAPTISM-REPLY TO A BAPTIST
MINISTER.

In the B. H. for February two interesting notes appeared from "A Baptist Minister," in which he approbated much that our pages from time to time advocate but took exception to the doctrine of baptism as therein set forth and intimated doubt as to whether John iii. 5 refers to baptism at all. Consequently we were led to ask for the proper exposition of the text and also to be told what the design of baptism is and in what texts of Scripture that design is clearly stated. The reasonableness of this request was at once admitted and followed by an attempt to comply, which only terminated in our last issue. Our present business is with the second question-What is the design or purpose of baptism, and where in Scripture is that purpose declared? In answer to this question our correspondent said— "Baptism is a sign of the spiritual change which passes upon every true disciple of Christ before baptism."

But our demand was for an answer in the words of Scripture, which our friend has not given, simply because he says, in effect, what the catechism says-that baptism is an "outward sign of an inward spiritual grace," which the Bible does not say, and which in the nature of the thing it cannot be. In returning to the subject, after two months, our Minister wrote " "You require me to say, in the language of Scripture what baptism is for. Well, suppose I am unable to do that, do you really think my inability will decide the question,” and further, "What if I change the ground and ask you to tell me where we are told in the New Testament what baptism is for. Please to remember I do not ask you to say what baptism together with something else is for, but simply what baptism only is for." Our

answer in effect was- -"That God
has not in any dispensation insti-
tuted an ordinance of commemora-
tion or initiation without giving
plainly in unfigurative terms the
design thereof. We also insisted
that if it were true that Scripture
does not give a statement of its design
our friend would not be justified in
declaring it a sign of a previous in-
ward change. We then advanced
to the commission, showing that
there faith and baptism are put as
conditions of salvation, whereas the
Baptists mend the Lord's com-
mission by taking out one of his
conditions and putting it as the
result, and by putting back his
declared result into the place of
one of its antecedents. Then we
acceded to the demand to tell what
baptism in Scripture is said to be
for-i.e. "for the remission of sins,"
Acts ii. 38. Here we have the
words of the Holy Spirit. It was
also pointed out that the require-
ment was improperly cumbered,
when our friend said "I do not ask
you to say what baptism with some-
thing else is for, but simply what
baptism only is for," because bap-
tism in Scripture is never alone. As
in the plan of salvation the blood of
Christ is never alone, faith is never
alone, repentance is never alone, so
baptism is never alone, or if alone
is only hypocrisy and sin. We
showed from Acts ii. 38, that Peter
presented faith, repentance, and
baptism for or in order to the re-
mission of sins. We gave as a rule
that admits of no exception—
"That wherein two or more acts are
conjoined in order to a given end that
each of those acts is for the end or pur-
pose for which the whole are enjoined.”

Now what says our good Baptist friend to the above? Very little, and that little more in the form of assertion than of proof or argument. Then he closes the investigation lest he

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weary the reader and the discussion create unkindly feeling. For this we are sorry because we see no ground for such feeling and have no fear of such results. Differences which keep bodies of believers apart must be investigated or they will ever remain and their evil results also. But the little contained in his concluding remarks must be noticed. His words are-"You asked me to say, in Scripture language, what baptism is for; and when I said I wished you to do as much for me, at the same time stating that it must be the one thing, as you yourself had put it, and nothing else, you reply that baptism never stands alone in Scripture. Then why did you ask me for that, and nothing else? I, of course, knew well enough that there was such a passage as the one you quote, but that does not contain, and I knew it did not, the answer as you requested me to supply it. Does not that seem a little disingenuous?" Certainly not! For we never said a word about "baptism and nothing else." If I ask a man the purpose for which he puts a ball into his rifle I expect he will tell me that he does so in order to kill. But does he imply in so answering that the ball alone is for that purpose? I might not mention powder, but he knows that I include whatever is essential to give the bullet effect. So here I ask about the design of baptism having in view, though not naming, all that is requisite to render that baptism valid-viz-faith and repentance.

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In alluding to the rule-" That whenever two or more acts conjoined," &c., our friend says "Your own canon of criticism is exactly adapted to close the whole question, by making it cover the entire ground which you wish to оссиру. But I cannot allow you to take for granted as much as is assumed there, seeing that there is a great deal more involved in such an arbitrary rule than would be safe

to yield without the most substantial proof." Now, it is of no use to abuse the canon, nor can it be set aside by saying that "it is adapted to close the whole question." Let our friend find an exception to the rule, either in the Bible or in the entire range of literature, and then we shall withdraw it. But till that is done it does close the "question by showing that our Baptist's friends in this particular are in the wrong. "Most substantial proof" is demanded. Certainly! And the demand is answered in the fact that no exception to the rule can be produced. But failing to set aside the rule our friend claims to reject it on the ground of a supposed consequence. He says- I suppose you mean to imply that remission of sins is not granted to any one without baptism." Now we imply nothing of the sort. What we both imply and affirm is this-God under this dispensation commands sinners to believe, repent and be baptized, that he promises to all who comply in these three items the remission of sins-that though He has not shut himself up so that he cannot save without them He has left us no authority to preach less or otherwise than these three as in order to pardon. The question is not what God can and may in some instances dispense with, but what is his revealed and ordinary plan.

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some instances dispense with baptism (that is where it cannot be had) We no more doubt than that in certain other cases he may dispense with faith, as in the case of infants and idiots who, not having power to believe, cannot exercise faith, and who most certainly will never be condemned for the want of it.

In the next place our friend wrote

"I presume you mean to imply that it is your belief remission of sins is not granted to anyone without baptism. It may be as well, though, for you to know that eis, rendered for in the passage you

quote, (Acts ii. 38), does not necessarily mean in order to, but unto, or in relation to. The exact import, consequently, must be sought for by a comparison of other passages with it." Certainly it is "well for us to know "anything we don't know concerning eis, and, in regard to anything our friend can teach us, "the smallest contribution will be thankfully received," but he must take care that it is of reliable material. To render eis by unto will not help his case, for as "sickness unto death" is sickness terminating in death, and as a journeying to London terminates in London and does not follow the being in that city, so repentance and baptism unto the remission of sins go before and terminate in that remission. As to "in relation to." If our informant think it as well we should know that eis is so accommodating that the action to which it refers may be an antecedent to the result named but that, at the option of the reader, it may indicate exactly the opposite and stand as a consequent of that result, we beg to hand the small contribution back as bad coin, only fit to be nailed to the counter, to warn others who may carry similar counterfeits. Of course we remember that base coin is sometimes tendered by persons who do not suspect its quality. But it may be well to state a thing or two that we have learned in regard to eis. First then from a Baptist authority. Dr. J. A. Broaddus, Prof. of Exegesis in the Baptist College, Greenville, S.C. This preposition, strictly speaking, everywhere has the same force, viz. that an object comes or is brought to be 'in' within' some other object or state." Dr. Harrison (on Greek prepositions) intimates that "when eis is added to the action or motion of the verb, or to any substantive idea, that may imply these, and regard is had to the accusative case following," the effect is "to represent the subject

of the action or motion as brought within the circumscribed space, class or category, state or circumstance, named by the noun in the accusative." But Baptist Minister, notwithstanding, would have us to know that eis in Acts ii. 38 expresses the relation of baptism to a remission of sins previously received! Our reply is twofold— first, that there cannot be produced a single instance in the whole of the New Testament in which eis is used to express the ground or reason of an action, and second-that the signification of the words "For the remission of sins" is fixed by their use in another place. Our friend says, "We are distinctly told that the remission of sins is through the blood of Christ." But how does he know that we are told this?

We are as distinctly told that the remission of sins is through repentance and baptism. Look at the two statements

"This is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many,

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FOR (EIS) THE REMISSION OF SINS." Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ,

FOR (eis) THE REMISSION OF SINS." In the Greek, as in the English, the words of the Saviour stating that his blood is shed "for the remission of sins "are precisely the same as those in which Peter declares the design or purpose of baptism—word for word. Yet in the one case we are "distinctly told" that the blood is shed for (in order to), the remission of sins, while in the other case the same words tell us nothing distinctly. Now the difference between Baptist Minister and us is that finding these words in both texts he accepts the one in its plain grammatical acceptation and rejects the other as unmeaning, while we take them both and submit to what they say without setting over them our own previously formed opinion, designated "the analogy of the faith." Taking the two statements together, we have FOR (OR IN

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ORDER TO THE remission of sinsTHE BLOOD OF CHRIST,

REPENTANCE,

BAPTISM.

"But how can this be?" cries one. "The statement is contradictory. If the blood is for remission, baptism cannot be !" Our reply is "How can you talk so absurdly?" Who does not know that a series of causes may combine to a given end, and that while some may be meritorious and others not, yet each may have been constituted necessary to securing that end in the appointed way? The case stands thus

CAUSES OF SALVATION:

1. Moving Cause LOVE OF GOD. 2. Procuring Cause BLOOD OF CHRIST. 3. Qualifying Cause FAITH

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teaching of the Bible a rule for settling the meaning of a Greek preposition. It will be as well for him to know that in so doing he is violating a rule of interpretation that covers the whole ground and admits of no exception, viz: "Nothing shall be elicited from a text but what is yielded by the fair grammatical explanation of the language. We happen to have at hand the following testimony on the point

ERNESTI, "The system of deducing the sense of words from the matter, is altogether fallacious: the matter ought rather to be deduced from the words and from their sense rightly investigated."

MELANCTHON "Scripture cannot be understood theologically, unless it be understood first grammatically."

LUTHER. "We must not make God's word mean what we wish: we must not bend it, but allow it to bend us." "The knowledge of the sense can be derived from nothing but the knowledge of the words."

"Neither Theology

BRETSCHNEIDER. nor Philosophy ought to exercise any influence upon the operations of an interthe logical propriety of the sense, as dispreter. An interpreter is not to consider covered by the Historic dogmatic process, but must leave all such considerations to the dogmatic theologian. He is not to shrink from apparent inconsequence or inconsistency in the sense which he has satisfactory hermeneutical reasons for giving to the text."

Here the subject must be left. We wish our kind friend had gone into it fully by the aid of sound recognized principles of interpretation, as then we doubt not he would have found himself in a region of light and harmony, most agreeable to him, notwithstanding he has at present some little dread of people who see no difficulty in certain portions of Scripture which are confessedly difficult to him. ED.

DIVISION

IN

"I have tried to convince some here that the New Testament leaves no room for division and have been answered in reply that it does, by the statement of Paul Mark those who cause division and avoid them,' also that Paul and Barnabas parted company, and that the greater the

CHURCHES.

number of Churches the more effectually the Gospel will be spread. Brother King what do you think of this? I have quoted the admonition of Paul, 'Now I beseechi you brethren by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ that ye all speak the same thing and that there be no division among

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you but that ye be perfectly joined to- | gether in the same mind and in the same judgment,' also 'let us therefore as many as be perfect be thus minded, and if in anything ye be otherwise minded God shall reveal even this unto you.' These passages I have cited in support of doing away with settling matters in the Church by the voice of the majority and also with resolutions and amendments. I urge that when there are two minds and two judg ments then we are divided, and that the matter before the Church ought to be allowed to rest until all are of the same

W. F.

DIVISION, if the word is used to denote the making of one Church into two or more, is right or wrong according to the motive and spirit of the parties concerned. Sometimes the local circumstances, as the largeness of the town, the distance which in point of residence the members are apart, or the amplitude of the talents of the church, render division desirable. When this is the case it should be effected by a resolution to form of the one two churches, with the intention to co-operate in bringing the truth to bear upon the world. But division effected because certain members cannot agree on things not absolutely settled by the law of the Lord is carnal and those who are responsible for it will have a heavy account to render.

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heads, faces, and education differ. Difference of mind and judgment in this class of questions is just as

natural as for a horse to run on four legs. W. F. thinks the church should not decide by majority but wait till all see alike. But there are questions which will not wait. A church has to rent a new meeting place because the owner of the old one will not allow of its further

mind and prepared to give the same judg-occupation. Two houses offer and the church has to decide which is ment. I leave this for those who are better informed than myself and shall be preferable. When they have said glad to hear your opinion on the subject." all they can thirty are for house No. 1, and ten for house No. 2, and all agree that they ought to go to one of the two places. There is no alternative the majority must decide. Take a matter not so imperative. Say whether a course of special preaching or lecturing shall be entered upon on some supposed favorable opportunity. When you have considered the matter to the utmost of reasonable limits there is a majority in favor but some against the lectures. Now if the majority does not rule the minority must, and is it not better that the few yield to the many than the many to the few? To insist upon a unanimous resolution is to give to any one, two, or three the power to stay all effort and improvement. No greater absurdity was ever proposed. This much we grant and urge that large forbearance and much kindly caution be observed. Never drive a thing to a conclusion, which is not greatly important or which can wait a little, because you can carry it by a mere majority. Try further consideration as long as it can be useful. And if the thing be not important don't press it against the liking of a number who have a decided objection and perhaps a sort of conscientious scruple against it.

But the notion of getting rid of propositions, amendments, and decision by majority, is about as reasonable as would be an effort to put an end to the flying cf birds and the swimming of fish. Of course the church has no right to decide by majority whether it will obey the positive law of God, nor has it to decide that question in any way--there is the law, and the obedience is imperative. The demand of Paul for oneness of mind and judgment has reference to the revealed will of God. But on matters of expediency opinions will differ just so long as

As to propositions and amendments, you cannot do without them. Say next Monday week is a day when business is suspended and

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