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Dr. Watts sings 'election as excluding boasting,' in the following words:

But few among the carval wise,

But few of noble race
Obtain the favor of thine eyes,

Almighly King of Grace.
He takes the men of mennest name

For song and heirs of God;
And thus he pours abundant shame

On honorable blood.
He calls the fool, and makes him know

The myst'ries of his grace,
To bring aspiring wisdom low,

And all its pride abase.
Nature has all its glory lost,

When brought before his thrones
No flesh shall in his presence boast,

But in the Lord alone. There are many songs of this sort, composed in whole or in part of definition, not only found in Watts, but in many other poets and hymn makers. Can any one show, in the whole 150 inspired songs, a psalm or hymn of such a category! If however useful to sector ries and retailers of definitions such worship be, it has no favor in heaven, and ought to have no place in the Cbristian worship.

A, O.


MARTINSVILLE, Ohio, 4th May, 1842. Beloved brother in Christ,

As you are doubtless anxious to know the result of the debate in this place, which is now closed, I hasten to communicate to you, as briefly as practicable, some of the facts of the case, which, if it seem expedient, I would be happy you would publish in the Harbinger.

As you are already aware, from what you learned when you were present with us yesterday, Mr. M·Abee sbacked outfrom the first proposition laid down by Mr. Erwin; which was,-that "episcopacy, as it now is exhibited in the church government of modern Pedobaptist denominations, is the legitimate offspring of Popery." The second proposition you heard debated; which was, that "infant baptism is without authority in the word of God." But for the sake of the cause of truth, I think an enlightened public should have a “bird's eye view” of the manner in which this proposition was disposed of by our would-be main luminary, Mr. J. N. M.Abee. *. The second proposition was,-that "immersion alone, in the name • of the Holy Trinity, is gospel baptism.” The parties met this morning according to adjournment. Mr. Erwin, having the affirmative, opened the discussion. After some quibbling about points of order, he proceeded first by reading the different passages in which the account of John the Baptist and his baptism is given. Then he proceeded to comment on the baptism of the Messiah by John. Mr. M.

. Bome remarks on tiis discussion may be expected next work. Aic

in his rejoinder, first gave the definition of bapřízo, as given by Da Elliott, his favorite linguist. Then he gave us a few round assertions as usual. Such, for instance, as that there was no evidence that Joha immersed! Then in the case of the Jews passing through the sea, and being baptized in the cloud and in the sea. The cloud was not a pillar of fire, but a common cloud, and it sprinkled rain upon them! 'The debate throughout was marked with the most presumpluous insolent insinuations against Baptists who contend for primitive practises.

We had a new idea from the reverend gentleman about blasphemy. He said with unblushing impudence, that in many cases it was immodest and indecent to immerse. It is for the administrator to take a person down into a muddy, filthy, stagnant stream of water, and plunge him into it—if any thing was blasphemy, it certainly was!

Indeed, the whole discussion, so far as the Pedoes were concerned, was marked with an utter want of candor. Mr. Erwin was not heard to use one single opprobrious epithet; but defended the truth in a fair and candid manner. And I suppose that all candid honest-hearted people who heard them will award to him a complete victory-although his antagonist had the folly to give several expressions of “Well done great I,” even before they came out of the desk.

There is one thing I would notice before I conclude, that there was considerable of indecency manifested by Mr. M. and his dear brethren; for in speaking of his newly discovered blasphemy, he had the ancommon penetration to discern that there was a strong analogy between it and the practice introduced in the early times of apostacy of baptizing persons who were naked; which caused many of his dear brethren to show their hearty approbation by a senseless ósnigger!"

As an impariial judge, I think the good sense of this community will award io each of the debaters their doe-which will be, that Mr. Erwin is by far the better Christian, and though not as critical in the matter of public discussion as his antagonist, has represented truth ao cording to the best of his ability; whilst his antagonist did show a great want of candor, and considerable tact in the element of sophistry, in the defence of his sinking baby system. May truth wing its way and error be confounded!


Dear Brethren,

The Church of Disciples, 12 miles east of Bowling Green, and near the Dripping Spring, have determined to hold a meeting at their new meeting-house, beginning the Friday before the second Lord's day in August next, for the purposes of worship, co-operation in the work of evangelizing, and a free conversation upon all subjects connected with the present and future interests of the good cause south of Green River. It is earnestly desired that every congregation in the above district of country will furnish at that time, through their mes. sengers and letter, full information upon the following questions:

1. When and where were you congregated as a church? and with how many members?


VUL VI.- N. 8

2. Who are your Elders and Deacons, and Evangelist, if any?

3. What, if any, efforts have been made to procure and sustain in your immediate region an efficient Evangelisi?

4. What is the present congregation for good government and piety, and how many have been added to you during the past twelve inonths by ia mersion, letter, or from other denominations? - with any other information which you may de m valuable.

Beloved brethren, the importance of the meeting thus proposed, we trust will appear obvious to all, and meet your hearty approbation. As yet we have had but liitle acquaintance with each other, and no concert of action and effort in order io sustain the cause of the reformation in this fine and extensive region of our state. It is now of vital importance that such a meeting should be held, and that we begin, at least, to operate more systematically and eficiently. It is impossible to find and write separately to all the churches scattered over so large a territory. We trust, i herefore, that immediate efforts will be made to furnish us with the above information through your letter and mes sengers. Should any of ihe churches be unable to send messengers, please furnish us with a statement by letter, (postage paid,) addressed to A. Shobe, Dr. W. Ford, or J. Carpenter, Dripping Spring, Edmundson county. As yet we have no correct iuformation either as 10 the number of congregations, disciples, or evangelisis, within the above district of country. It is hoped that as many of the Evangelists and teaching brethren as can conveniently attend the meeting will not fail to do so. We would earnestly and affectionately invite those living in the northern part of the state, and in Tennessee, to make us a visit at that time, or any other.

We rejoice to find that the breihren here and further south of us are awake to the importance of keeping efficient and prudent Evangelists employed in spreading the knowledge of the truth, and teaching and exhorting the brethren to more faithfulness.

It is thought highly important that we should have at least two such meetings as the above in the course of each year, somewhere between Glasgow and the mouth of Cumberland river. Yours truly,

GEO. W. ELLY. Bowling Green, May 3, 1842.


North Middletown, Bourbon county, May 10, 1812. From the excitement and dissatisfaction existing in relation to M Vay, this church theught it important to attend to the above request, and 29. cordingly appointed six of her own members, including Elders Rash, Adams, and Muson, and five members from the church at Cane Ridge, (as there would be no meeting of that church before the day appointed ) making the number eleven, to meet at the time and place stated.

On the day appointed a large concour:e of persons assen.bled, and as the committee believed 1. Vay used inuch intrigue and management to prevent a full and fair investigation. Finally, both parties agreed to submit the matter to the committee, who then organized ihemselves by appointing Eider A. Adams, Moderator, and William Mason, C'erk. As two of the bretiren appointed failed to attend, the committee selected two other bretren to act with them, to which selection both parties agreed.

The second paragraph in brother Smith's publication was the part most complained of. Brother Smith then pledged bimself to sustain and prove

every allegation, or take it back like a man and a Christian. The item concerning the horse with the big head was first taken up and fully in. vestigated, many witnesses being examined. The next matter of com. plaint was, that brother Smith had said that HiVay was guilty of wilful lying in more than half a dozen other cases. In susiaining himself in this statement brother Smith submitted numerically in writing thirteen speci. fic charges of lying. Each specification or charge was isken up, one at a time, and fully examined, many witnesses being introduced pro and con, the whole investigation occupying two days, meeting at an early hour and sitting until late. Brother Smith then proposed to proceed to sustain and prove ail the other charges which he had made against M.Vay. But M.Vay opposed any further investigation, and argued that these charges could be investigated only where they were aileged to have been committed, and that he would go into Ohio and Indiana and inves. tigate and disprove them. Brother Smith then stated that as to the charge of his illegitimate offspring.-of bis fraudulently obtaining liters of re. commendatiun--of bis having been excluded from the church, and vari ous other charges, be had then in his pocket numerous documents duły certified by whole churches, and from a number of individuals of high standing, many of them our most able and reputable preachers, to prove allanci more than he had charged upon him. Butas Al Vay h:d opposed fur her investigation, and the day was nearly gone, the con miliee with drew and made out the following Report, which was read 10 the audi

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“The committee, after a full investigation of all the charges separately, would respectfully report--That with regard to the charte concerning the horse with the big head, we are of the opinion that it has been sus tainedl; yet some initigating circumstances were submitted which make it possible that M Vay's intention to defraud might have been mistaken. As to the charge of li•Vay's saying that the church at Sharpsburg had once taken up this matter of difficulty, we think, that though sustained, it was the result of a want of caution on the part of M Vay. Allibe other charges we think were sustained.”

(Signed by tlie commitiee whose names are hereunto annexed.]

We would further state, that, strange as it may appear, notwithstand ing the committee found him guilty of lying in tweive instances, and so published to the audience, he rose in a lew minutes after and made two appointments to preach; and immediately on going out of the meeting. house made so rude an attack on two of the committee, venerable grayheadeıl old brethren, that he was reproved by one of his warmest partisans. (The two last occurrences were witnessed by only a part of the com. mittee )

Most of the breihren who took up with him when he first came among us have fursaken h m; yet, from his intrigue and artifice, he has still a few pirtiens, from one or two of whom we should not be surprized if he were to oblain certificades disreputable to this committee and brother Smith. We only add, that it is our prayer to our heavenly Father that this communication may be the means of preventing him from giving our dear brettiren in any viber part of the country the same distress be lias given mary here.







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BISHOP P. S. FALL'S SCHOOL NBAR FRANKFORT, KENTUCKY. A few extracts from one of brother Fall's private letters afford a glance i.260 the nternal arrangemenls of one of the first Feinale Schools in the United States.

“But you will desire to koow, somewhat partirularly, our mode of procedure, and to wisat to altribute the aludience of any in our farily. We rise, geucrally, so as to brealt fast about sunrise, or shortly after, As Mrs f's health has sot been suficiently robust to allow of early rising, and on hier account, we meet in the school roow immediately after breakfast. Each one has the Bible and a liyin :)-book. Alierliaving sung a hynin, a chapter (or two) is read, the whole school taking part in it. We began with Genesis, and have pursued a plam somewhat after the Conversations al Carlion Houxe." We went ou slowly, and examined not only the facts, but the principles in velved in them, and especially itae refrrences to the New Institution Prayer is offered at the conclusion. In this way we have reached Gen xvi.

"The interruptions occasioned by my sickness, and that of my family, have prevented a more rapid progress. Remarks liave been: niade upon the wliole, of such a mature as The incidents or the principles seemid to require, aud questions liave been asked respect. ing the thoughts offered, at a previous lesson.

Imaldition 10 this morning exercise, iliree of the young ladies cominit daily a passage ene-one in tlie Law, one in the Psalms, the other in the New Testament. The length of each recitation varies according to the colinexion, or the ability to commit

All are tauglil to attraipt no more than can be well done; but the quantity is left to themselves. To be permited to recile. is awarded 10 ail whose conduct is rooil. I had beliaviour is ever indulged in the delinquent cannot repeat the Bible lesson. Only a few instances have oceurred where ibis privilege was denied. In this way the Old Testament has been coinmilled as far as 1 Chron. xvii. The Psalmis have been repeated iwice, and we are as far the 431 in going over that book the third time. The Proverbs have been repeated twice, Ecclesiastes once, Isalah ouce, the wizole New Testament once, and as far as the 131110f Acis in going through the second time. Ou Lord's day, each one, having begun with Matthew,commits a chapter (more or les:) 10 meniory, and recites it to me, Mrs. F, or sister Williams On the vight of each Friday and Lord's day, all who are disciplus meet in the room of sister Williams. A subject is taken that relates to practical or devo. tional duty: and all the passages relating to ibat subject are sourit ont. It forms watter for thought and conversation, and exerts a lappy in Quence upon all Besides this, we have mcetiny here each alternate Lori's day, when regular congregational worship is attended to. Some of our neighbors attend; and we enjy ourselves very mucli.

"I am happy to say that I do not think there is one pupil here, who considers any exer. eine required of her to be a burden; for although some of them belong to other commu. nions, all engage leartily in these religious persuits. We have one Baptist here, whose chureh prohibits comunion with us, much to her gries. But she is not encouraged to violate what she considers her duty. And let me add, no one of the parents of our popils, although some are not meribers of the church, has expressed biwisell otherwise ilan bighly gratitied at the obedience of lijs child or ward I could sbow you come letters that would do your heart good--that have caused us to “thank God, and take courage." In sizler Wwe have a great treasure; as a companion, a fellow laborer, and a co operator fu all the plans for the welfare of our charge; and as a profound, faithful, and conscien. tious instructer, I have not known her equal.

“We are particularly careful to preveni our pupils from being subjected to counteract. ing influences, Jence we stipulate wat no one wall he permitted to attend any farty, public or private, the theatre, or a dancing sclino!, $c &c. during the sessions. If any parent cause a child to violate this stipulation, we gend lier home. Of course we do not teach them to dance here; nor do we encourage rxtravagance in dress, or allow of it; nor do we permit such associations as will neutralize all that we do. Religious instructions, under such cirrunstances are sheer hypocrisy and immun. I have known sowe pareuts who sent their children to Sunday school for the purpose of learning the Bible; but they dressed them in such a way as 10 forbid the trutlis of ile Bilsje Proin entering their niinds. Others, who were not so inconsistent in this respect, yei permitted and encouraged their children to go, during the week, into such company as mentioned not the Bible, except in georn; and thus all the good that might have resulted, was lost, and replaced by all evil. We might as well expect a new born bale so survive the cold of the keenest winters niglit, as tha! a young Christian can ever grow and thrive liy the milk of the word, if it be dashed with the adulterations of a gay and fashionable life, or by any of its heartless, hypocritical, unprincipled, and deadly “refinemeuls." Those who "live io plcasure, are dead while they live.'

Our religious pursuits do not interfere with our literary engagements. But on this suhjeet, while I cannoi enlarge, I have just to say, our young people are occupied during the whole day, being seldom without a book of some kind or other in their hands.

“Thua, much is accomplished, and in addition to regular study and reeilation, leetuires are given at night, upon seientific su njecis, illustrated by all the varied and splendid pliar pomena, which a good apparatus enables us to exhibit. The class in which is bids fair to make as good sobolars at least, as any that have completed their course heren

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