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ON THE DOCTRINE OF UNIVERSAL SALVATION: HELD IN CINCINNATI, O., FROM MARCH 24, TO APRIL 1, 1845. BETWEEN REV. E. M. PINGREE, PASTOR OF THE FIRST UNIVERSALIST CHURCH, LOUISVILLE, KY. AND REV. N. L. RICE, D.D. PASTOR OF THE CENTRAL PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH, CINCINNATI, O. Taken down by a Reporter, AND REVISED BY THE PARTIES. CINCINNATI: PUBLISHED BY J. A. JAMES. 1845. AX CERTIFICATE. CINCINNATI, April 26, 1845. HAVING carefully examined the Stenographer's Report of the within discussion, and compared it with our notes and memorandums, we hesitate not to commend it to the public, as a full exhibition of the facts, documents and arguments, used by us on the question debated. E. M. PINGREE, N. L. RICE. Entered according to Act of Congress, in the year 1845, by In the Clerk's Office for the District Court of Ohio. Stereotyped by J. A. James 1116 90 CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN E. M. PINGREE AND N. L. RICE. Proposal to Rev. N. L. Rice. Louisville, Nov. 9, 1844. REV. AND DEAR SIR-I have recently seen in different religious periodicals the following PROPOSAL.-Dr. Robert J. Breckenridge, of Baltimore, Revs. N. L. Rice, of Cincinnati, and Wm. S. Plumer, of Virginia, will meet at any convenient time and place bishop Whelan and any two others whom he may select; or we will meet any three Roman bishops, archbishops, cardinals, priests, or deacons, and discuss with them this questionIs the Romish church the church of Christ?' The bishop and his friends may affirm, and we will deny. Or we will affirm that the Romish church is not the church of Christ,' and they may deny. Or two of us will meet any two of them on the terms stated above. The ordinary and equal rules of such debate to be adopted hereafter. The above is a standing proposal." In the True Catholic," published in Louisville, I also find the following note from your pen, copied from the "Watchman of the South :" "THE DISCUSSION.-Although the proposition for a public discussion with the Papists, to which you did me the honor to attach my name, was originally made without my knowledge, yet, not doubting that the circumstances demanded it, I cordially sanctioned it. I had no expectation, however, that it would be acceded to. The Roman clergy have become too wise to expose their cause thus. There is in error a conscious weakness, which causes its advocates to shrink from a thorough investigation of its claims. Your proposition, however, will prove to the unprejudiced, that we have all confidence in the principles we advocate, and are willing to have them subjected to the closest scrutiny. Now, Rev. sir, in view of this, your challenge to the Romanists, and especially of your remarks last quoted, in relation to the "conscious weakness of ERROR," I would respectfully make you the following proposal, to test "the confidence you have in the principles you advocate," relating to the immortal destiny of the human race. I do this the more readily, because you are known to be fond of public controversy, and have the reputation of being a good disputant; so that you will hardly decline the present offer of a discussion on the merits of Universalism and Partialism. PROPOSAL.-I will meet you, Providence permitting, at any convenient time, in the city of Louisville, and discuss with you the question-" Do the Scriptures teach the ultimate holiness and salvation of all men?" or, "Do the Scriptures teach the endless misery of any portion of mankind ?" "either or both, as you choose; to be conducted according to the usual and equal rules of controversy, as may be agreed upon hereafter. A similar proposal has been made to your friend, Doctor Breckenridge, of Baltimore; and I think he has accepted it. Another has been made to your other friend, the Rev. Mr. Plumer, if I mistake not, and he has declined it. I hope you, dear sir, will not decline this, but accept it at once; for what is the question—“Is the Romish church the church of Christ?" compared with that most momentous inquiryWhat is to be the immortal doom of the human soul? Shall it be pure and holy, finally, to rejoice forever in the glory of heaven? or, Shall it remain impure and unholy, to curse God and endure "all hell-horrors" throughout eternity? I moreover anticipate a ready acceptance of this invitation, from the fact of your having recently discussed with the Rev. Alexander Campbell, questions of infinitely less importance than the one I now propose to you; as of Baptism, its mode, subjects, objects, &c. Hoping to hear from you at your earliest convenience, I remain, respectfully, your humble servant, E. M. PINGree. Reply to E. M. Pingree's challenge. MESSRS. EDITORS-I received through the post-office, a few days since, your paper of November 30th, in which I find a proposition, or challenge, from one of you (Mr. Pingree) to a public discussion of the merits of Universalism. I have never given a challenge of this kind to any one. My name |